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Not So Black And White With Sean Palmer and John Alan Turner

Minister, author, and speaker Sean Palmer and church consultant, author, and speaker John Alan Turner share thought-provoking discussions, interviews, and reflections on contemporary issues that aren't always black and white.
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Jun 14, 2018

You can't get where you want to go one your own. We need each other and every one needs a coach. The greatest athletes, actors, musicians and pastors have coaches. Guess what? You can't participate in God's preferred future without some guidance along the way. 

You need a coach. 

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May 20, 2018

He thought he'd be better at this Christianity thing by now.

All his life, John Alan Turner has wanted to be different, to be better than who he is, to improve. Instead, he helped plant a church that folded within a year. He got divorced. He was diagnosed with depression. His car was rear-ended and totaled, which left him with life-altering injuries. It seemed like the harder he pushed to become the person he was supposed to be, the farther away it fled. And now, here he is after all these years, saying, ''I'm still me.''

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Apr 20, 2018

Sean and John sit down with theologian, writer, and friend of the show Scot McKnight to talk about Scot's newest book, Open To The Spirit: God in Us, God with Us, God Transforming Us. 

This new book is perfect for pastors and teachers engaging their community in a discussion of the Holy Spirit, and accessible for everyday readers ready to go deeper.

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Mar 23, 2018

Sean and John continue to discuss Sean's first 21-years in local church ministry, what he has learned, what keeps him going, and how you can keep going too. This one is great whether you're just starting out or need some renewal.

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Mar 19, 2018

Sean and John discuss Sean's first 21-years in local church ministry, what he has learned, what keeps him going, and how you can keep going too. This is the perfect listen whether you're in the midst of struggle or experiencing your best season of ministry.

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Feb 28, 2018

Sean and John talk with Dr. N.T. Wright, one of the world's foremost theologians, about his work, particularly his new book, "Paul: A Biography." 

We also talk translations of the New Testament and what it's like to be NT Wright's pastor.

Paul: A Biography

Take a Class From Dr. Tom

 

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Dec 22, 2017

Christians are called to practice a "generous orthodoxy." We are called to hold to the Christian tradition while also being open to the ways of a changing (and often improving) world. The problem is that the two sides of the equation inevitably come into conflict. Then we must choose. Sean and John discuss whether and when Christians might choose generosity? Or will we choose orthodoxy? Which will we prioritize?

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Dec 15, 2017

Almost every church and church leader wants to innovate and be a part of what is cutting edge. That means changes in approach and practice. But what do churches lose in the process of doing the "new thing"? Might there be some ancient and older ways to help us navigate toward a better tomorrow?

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Dec 8, 2017

Sean and John outline 8 initial steps churches should take BEFORE and AFTER sexual harassment and assault charges arise in your church. As two men, they are sure there are other important steps they've missed.

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Nov 13, 2017

In 2016, NFL players (and others) began taking a knew during the Star Spangled Banner in protest of police violence against unarmed black men. A year later, that protest has become conflated with America's military and Veterans? Is that fair? Right? Or is this just Americans turning an important issue into a "political football."

Sean and John discuss the pros, cons, and reasons behind the protest and give you some different ways to think and talk about taking a knee.


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Oct 17, 2017

This is an absolute NECESSITY for anyone who has ever dreamed of writing a book, particularly in the Christian market

Sean and John take an insider's look into Christian publishing. These are the ESSENTIALS of what you need to know. 

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Sep 15, 2017

Sean and John talk about Sean's new book, Unarmed Empire: In Search of Beloved Community. Sean shares why he wrote the book, what it means for the church, and how to move forward into beloved community.

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Aug 30, 2017

Sean and John talk abut Hurricane Harvey, Sean's flooded house, and what churches -- big and small -- can do to respond to one of America's worst natural disasters.

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May 15, 2017

Sean and John sit down with best-selling author, provocateur, and Christian thinker, Rob Bell. More than talking about Rob's newest book, WHAT IS THE BIBLE?, Sean, John, and Rob talk ministry in the 21st-Century, what happens when you grow in your understanding of God, burning down the house, wearing the same clothes on tour, the nature of truth, and much much more. 

This is real stuff, not your typical "sell a book" interview with not your typical Christian thinker. What we know is not so black and white.

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Apr 17, 2017

There are landmines in every sentence a public Christian leader speaks, writes, and posts. People are sensitive (sometimes overly so) and political (always overly so), leading to easily hurt feelings and misjudgments. 

How can pastors, preachers, and teachers communicate hard truths and help their flock receive hard truths as love. Sean and John explore some key components needed to help teachers be bold and not fear the flock. 



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Mar 19, 2017

From the Renew Conference in Fresno, CA on March 11, Sean and John talk about race, church, and unity. Hear practical steps to get yourself and your church moving past the racial quagmire.


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Feb 17, 2017

Sean and John talk about the Falcons' Super Bowl meltdown and what a proper Christian orientation toward time -- future and past -- should look like. Is Christianity a backward looking or forward oriented faith? Is it both?

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Feb 10, 2017

Sean and John, in partnership with The Lookout Magazine, talk race relations in America. Recorded specifically for The Lookout, this is a primer for those interested in where we are in terms of race in America and around the world and the church's role.

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Jan 30, 2017

Only half of eligible American voters opted-in during the 2016 election. Half of those people elected Donald Trump the 45th President of the United States. That means only 25% of Americans choose, through direct action, for Trump to be President. Add to that, Trump entered the presidency with roughly a 35% approval rating. In his first 10 days in office, 3 days witnessed massive, historic protest. He is not a popular man!

Nevertheless, he is president and soared the presidency with reportedly 81% support from Evangelicals. Yet many evangelical rank-and-file leaders (pastors) see trouble, both in Trump and the church's support of him.

They may not post and preach about it, but they talk to each other. Sean and John share a bit of what they are hearing and offer some helpful ways to move forward, as distinctly Christian people in the age of Trump.

Further Exploration:

How To Live Under An Unqualified President.

Is It Too Late for Russell Moore to Say Sorry.

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Jan 20, 2017

Author and blogger Morgan Guyton joins the show to talk about his book, How Jesus Saves the World From Us: 12 Antidotes to Toxic Christianity. Here we talk about what's right and wrong in contemporary Christianity and how Christians can better serve the world around us. 


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Dec 14, 2016

What's the deal with Advent? When does Christmas actually start? What's Lent for? What's Ordinary Time? Aren't they just leftover vestiges of Catholicism and Christendom?

Many folks who grow up in "free church traditions" don't understand the liturgical calendar or why anyone would bother with it. For some, it seems stilted and unhip, plus the big mega-churches don't seem to bother with it.

Sean and John talk about the role the liturgical calendar plays in the spiritual formation of Christians and the church. You will be blessed by this.


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Dec 12, 2016

So how are you feeling after Donald Trump's electoral victory? Ready to call him "President-Elect" or does the thought of it make you want to curl into the fetal position? Are you happy or stung by the fact that 81% of "evangelicals" (whatever that means) supported Trump?

Most importantly, what might Trump's election mean for the Christian church and Christian witness in the 21st-Century - especially those who didn't, don't and won't ever support his vision of America? Sean and John talk about the problems and potential facing Christians in America.

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Nov 16, 2016

Live at CenterPeace's e3 Conference, Sean and John welcome their friend and author Caleb Kaltenbach to discuss Caleb's book, Messy Grace: How A Pastor With Gay Parents Learned to Love Others Without Sacrificing Conviction.

Here we dive into a loving church response, where Christians have gone astray, and how to love our neighbor as ourselves. 

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Nov 1, 2016

Sean and John share their listener's responses to "Episode 14" with Best-Selling Author of Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy, and the recently released If You Can Keep It, and radio host, Eric Metaxas about Election 2016 and his outspoken advocacy for Donald Trump. 

They talk the good, the bad, and the ugly as they see it about religious enmeshment with politics, the state of Church and State relations and why Christians should just say what they mean.

Just when you think either Sean or John is a Liberal or Conservative, they surprise you...or at least try to. 

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Oct 14, 2016

In our first one-on-one episode, John Alan Turner sits down with Best-Selling Author of Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy, and the recently released If You Can Keep It, and radio host, Eric Metaxas about Election 2016 and his outspoken advocacy for Donald Trump.

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